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[G-WizZ]

It came as no surprise to us, and many others in the GTA fansite community, that this past year's massive marketing campaign and subsequent release of Max Payne 3 would rustle the jimmies of the Grand Theft Auto fanbase as they (im)patiently awaited more information on GTAV.

Understandably, people are upset - no, mildly inconvenienced - that since the November 2^nd trailer, no additional information on GTAV has been revealed. Newsflash: Grand Theft Auto is not the only franchise with a Rockstar logo on it. Shocking, I know. If you need to sit for a minute while you attempt to wrap your head around this revelation, go ahead, we'll wait.

As mentioned earlier, Max Payne 3, a game who's prequel was released nine years ago, was the subject of Rockstar Games' "biggest and boldest marketing effort thus far." This was a huge project to undertake, and it required the involvement of multiple Rockstar Studios to complete. Hypothetically, had Max Payne 3 came out four years earlier, resources would have been spread thin as they simultaneously put out GTAIV, and in consequence the game would not have been anywhere near as good as it is now. This logic can also be applied to GTAV.

Perhaps the reason for such a long delay in announcing new GTAV information, despite everything in the previous paragraph, is that Rockstar wants to show significant progress since the first trailer. Any premature media has the likelihood to disappoint, cause an uproar, and eventually another one of these news posts.

By now I'm sure Rockstar North is in full GTAV batshit-dedicated mode while the other studios work on their own projects. These include Max Payne 3 updates and fixes as well the planned DLC through the end of 2012, which is why you'll still be seeing (and complaining about) Max Payne 3 posts on Newswire.

Rockstar doesn't just shove a product out the door and forget about it, and they also don't rush their releases. Doing either would be a great sacrifice of quality. Rockstar Games is passionate about what they do and they make every attempt to give us the best game experience possible, even at the expense of time. This is why their games are as good as they are. Some people replying to posts on Newswire, however, would politely disagree:

Sorry @R* Were kinda getting tired of waiting on this release of GTA V i know you guys are still working with the bugs on Max Payne 3 but to tell you the truth WE DONT REALLY CARE ABOUT MAX PAYNE 3 , i mean its fun & all but lets face it , its like a better call of duty :/ . GTA V is were the big money is , If GTA IV is still getting sells & still being played like everyday theres nothing to worry about sells wise . This game will also be the highest sold game of all time !! The fact is you guys making the gaming community wait on this release is losing ALOT of your fans !!! FINISH & RELEASE GTA V !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My Cousin Had an Excite Attack Waiting for GTA V I hope it was worth the death............... , Im also a huge GTA person i believe this will be one of the best games ever made , but @Rockstar hurry up before more people die R.I.P. Tyler

These same fans will likely praise Rockstar once the game is out and they actually play it. Or they'll just be irate because it took too long.

[G-WizZ]

 Guest, on 14 June 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

what can it cost rockstar to give us some fucking informations????? it's our right to know damn it!

It takes quite a bit of work to put together a trailer and present it the way Rockstar does. If you have watched the Max Payne 3 videos, and then played through the game, you'll notice that what seems to be full sentences in the trailer are actually comprised of various pieces of his dialogue from different parts of the story, strung together in a manner that makes sense 1 grammatically and 2 contextually based on which pieces of gameplay are being shown. It's not like Rockstar made a second GTAV trailer months ago and is just sitting back laughing at us. Releasing new information follows the same logic I mentioned in releasing the game itself - they aren't going to show us some half-assed attempt at impressing us, they will reveal more information when they've got their release -exactly- how they want it to be before delivering it to the community, just like with the games themselves.

And nobody has the "right" to know anything about something they haven't paid for the right to use.

[G-WizZ]

 ASSSSSSSS, on 14 June 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

How many videos did Rockstar give to Max Payne... 1? then 2 monthes before release you got full details.

How many videos did Red dead redemption get 2? Then right before release you got gameplay video; details... etc..

Well, since there isn't even a release window for GTAV let alone an actual date, this is irrelevant.

 ASSSSSSSS, on 14 June 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

Last year they did voice casting for GTA V... That means the game already finished ... They don't write the story last.

That does not mean at all that the game is finished, it means the voice acting is finished, and the casting was never confirmed and could have been another hoax like everything else

 ASSSSSSSS, on 14 June 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

GTA IV had all sorts of details out... Until R* and its parent company Take2 2k was insulted by a group of freelancing bloggers after Duke Nukem's release. Then we only few pics to look at for Max Payne and Game informer had the only same pictures... WITH the exact same details registering on R*s site..

So what does that mean, you ponder -- R* is showing that it doesn't need to have any freelancing, journalist, blogger to demonstrate their product for people. That is why content has been thin for numberous games until when -- THE Few monthes before release.

So douchebag administrators / Bloggers/ Game reviewers... Feel proud of yourself... Has your gagillion sites been respectful to game developers... Maybe people would be getting exclusive information of the game. Instead of being forced to just google for images and watch twitter feeds.
Either way numerous of game developer parties have taken that fancy of not giving critics any type of content and forcing those critic bloggers to wait with the rest of the customers. No one listens to critics anyway... Its the game not some loser's opinion that makes the customer happy.

Duke Nukem (2K) came out last year, Max Payne 3 (R*) came out last month. The reason why content was thin for Max after Duke came out was because it was a full year before planned release. You even said yourself that most of the information comes only a few months before.

And of course people listen to critics. It would be ridiculous for people to just listen to what Rockstar has to say about their own game, because it will all be positive. No game is perfect, and game review sites provide an outsider's point of view which helps the consumer decide whether or not they want it. I lost track of how many people Rockstar let play different builds of the game leading up to the release, but we were one of them. Rockstar has said publicly on many occasions that they welcome feedback on their titles, both positive and negative - it's how they improve. They do listen, they just ask that people stay on topic in their news posts and use the appropriate contact methods to express yourself.

As far as nobody getting any exclusives, this

is about as exclusive as you can get.

[Jake]

 G-WizZ, on 14 June 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

And nobody has the "right" to know anything about something they haven't paid for the right to use.

Couldn't be more true. Either way though, people seem to discount the fact that these people don't just work on the one game - like you said in your original post - and just assume that the games are going to be out on a swift and speedy timeframe. One of the things I love about Rockstar is that they don't try to release a game every year like other companies (Activision with their Call of Duty series which is rapidly failing, for example), and they put a mountain of work into each of their games.

I personally can't wait to see GTA:V, or even more information about it, but I have more respect for them taking their time and having no issue pushing the release dates back and working on their other titles than I do a fervent desire to see the game.

[JCMoorehead]

I find it hilarious because once upon a time people used to complain that Rockstar weren't like a few developers in terms of interacting with their fans, it was said that they'd release a game and be quiet as a mouse afterwards and not relay any information or truly support it. Now that they are more vocal, they interact with the fans and support games more post release via social club events and playing online it's again not good enough for certain groups of people.

Really feel bad for them because you know fine well all they are doing they are doing for the fans, and a group ruin it.

[G-WizZ]

All of these comments below were made in the past 45 minutes on Rockstar's Facebook post about their new wallpaper series.

• Don't care. GTA V or gtfo
  
• GTA V info guys! 8 months for info is WAAAAY too much time to wait!
  
• Hey Rockstar we don't care about any thing you have to say unless you have something to say about GTA 5 !!!! That is all now shut up !
  
• GRAND THEFT AUTO V. It's been nearly 8 months since the first trailer now, plus you were a no-show at E3, come on already, stop playing games R*
  
• gta 5...give us a release date..or a new trailer atleast
  
• shut up and give us gta
  
• biggest trollcompany in history
  
• GRand Theft Auto V or GTFO!!!
  
• If you can sit in Photoshop making wallpapers, you can press PrintScreen during some GTAV gameplay and upload a screenshot for us. Simple as that R*
  
• When does gta v come out just tell us
  
• screw it, i'm not buying gta v, can't even give us a date or info like were asking, sick of the secrecy of games and development, can't get an inch of info anymore... i'm done.
  
• R* get your act together and give us info about the franchise that made you. GIVE US GTA V INFO!!!!

These tools don't realize that Rockstar does more than just sit a bunch of coders in a room with computers and have them make a game. Hell, just two days ago they sponsored an annual bike race. For fucks sake get your heads out of your asses, Rockstar is a business, not a robot.

[G-WizZ]

^ I agree.

[Falwith]

Wow, is about all I can say. WOW. See, R* tries to offer teasers and bait, to draw people into the new game, and all the whining children flip their lids because the opening act isn't a "see all reveal everything" of the game. It's situations like this that make a proposed age limit on the internet a good sounding idea. Keep the pre-pubescent little dicks out of our lives.

To be clear, R* will release info when THEY deem it time. They will reveal a release date when THEY feel it's time. The game will go live...when THEY feel it's time.

Why kids with no experience, understanding or information on the background of game development (from design to marketing to release) feel THEY know better how to handle things than a company who's made MILLIONS doing this is beyond my understanding. This attitude that ANYONE owes your sorry ass ANYTHING is pathetic. Teasers and slow revealing of info ADDS to the fan base, increases the anticipation of the game and overall, builds sales. Like it or not, kiddies, R* knows what they are doing, and will continue. Save your childish nerd raging for your mom, when she tells you to get the stale Cheetos out of your bed.

[Logos]

WTH R* whats with this GTA V trailer EVERYONE knows we want BULLY 2 comon R* what were you thinking?

[G-WizZ]

Lemmings 2 tbh.

[JayStorm]

OMGZ GTAV INFOZ K PLZ TANKS LAWL

[Logos]

GTA V silence is intelligent marketing


"It’s fair to say that gamers need to be patient and we’re sure the true fans will wait as long as it takes. We’ve seen a number of games spend as much on development as they do on marketing, which can result in a launch that fails to meet high expectations. The silence on real GTA V news could also allow for your expectations to not be so high, which would make them easier to meet, although having played most Grand Theft Auto games we cannot help but expect a lot for the next installment."


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[RagingGorilla00]

All people do is whine anymore. R* actually takes their time with any game they release. Idc to wait extra time if the game is awesome.